Terra Rebirth League (TRL)
12 May 2022
SA
23:35
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
Probably at least 20 entities
VB
23:35
Viktor Bunin
+1, if theres $30m to be made, people will figure it out
JZ
23:35
Jack Zampolin
It’s just some json manipulation
J
23:35
James Parillo
+1
E
23:36
EJ
yes
23:36
any concerns?
VB
23:36
Viktor Bunin
@sunnya97 is it possible for Osmosis to pull the osmo out / freeze that pool via governance?
SA
23:37
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
Yes but we are waiting for the Osmosis proposals to receive 67% voting approval
23:37
And that might take some time
23:38
And we still need to finish/test the code for this
B-
23:38
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
its not about any timeframe. as part of the relaunch, a specialized ongoing task force, independently operated, always critically assessing all attack vectors/vulnerabilities
PC
23:38
Peter Chainlayer
ok this whole telegram operates currently under the assumption that staked luna has 100% decision power basically correct? If so, I propose to put the 5 validators with the highest voting power in charge here (at least of coordination). as it stands I have no clue if the people agreeing represent 20% of the voting power or 80%. And find an easy way to put up solutions and tally the votes
SA
23:38
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
Would realistically take another 2 days to activate
P
23:38
PFC
wait.. how can they relay at all.. I thought Terra was down now
SA
23:39
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
This is for when Terra chain restarts
VB
23:39
Viktor Bunin
it assumes terra would be brought back online
P
23:39
PFC
ok.. so no mad fire.. but something to think about when it rebirths
VB
23:40
Viktor Bunin
maybe this is a dumb question, but what if we just wait the 2 days? can things get any worse?
E
23:40
EJ
in terra's perspective?
VB
23:40
Viktor Bunin
ye
DK
23:40
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
well for one thing, the whale with beth staked in anchor and shorting UST will be locked there for 2 days
23:40
so if the market nukes
23:40
then hes fucked
E
23:40
EJ
except for the locked asset, nothing changes
VB
23:40
Viktor Bunin
eh. i dont care about the whale
SA
23:41
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
If want to reactivate Terra chain faster, would be easy to freeze the IBC channel
23:42
And would achieve same effect
JS
23:42
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
that seems resonable, got an example of what that would look like?
SA
23:42
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
@jackzampolin
E
23:42
EJ
hmm even if we don't care about the bridged asset - I think we at least need to prepare lock for the market swap
23:42
thats the main problem now so
JS
23:42
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
yeah that's easy
E
23:43
EJ
lets move on to other problems then
JZ
23:43
Jack Zampolin
I’m afk but it’s a bool in the client struct.
JS
23:43
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
cool I'll investigate
JZ
23:43
Jack Zampolin
.app_state.IBC.clients or something in the genesis file
23:43
Sorry bed time for me. Gn y’all and Godspeed
23:44
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SA
23:46
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
Thanks
23:46
Happy to help with this
JZ
23:47
Jack Zampolin
Something about sends to an expired client
23:47
Need to disable the clients (if possible) also recoverable but on the order of days
VB
23:48
Viktor Bunin
im passing out friends. the way i see it - the chain restart should only be used to free everyones cross-chain assets like on Osmosis and the beth.
JZ
23:48
Jack Zampolin
If the light client is expired then sends to it will be throwing tokens into a hole. Need to disable the browser clients from sending IBC messages
E
23:49
EJ
Guys why don’t we first define the list of current problems we have to share it among the ppl in this group? The convo’s are too fragmented and its very hard to catch up.

1) Market module is still running - Yun is working for the patch

2) Bridged asset is locked - not sure we gonna care about this

3) Distribution plan for the new chain

- Are we using snapshot for distribution or create contract on new chain and let ppl to swap it with predefined rates using bridge.
- What will be the distribution percentage among UST holders and Luna holders

feel free to keep adding the problems, edit it
SA
23:49
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
4) Freeze IBC channel b/w Osmosis and Terra
JZ
23:49
Jack Zampolin
Juno too plz
VB
23:50
Viktor Bunin
i think 3) shouldnt even be on the table for right now tbh, too many other problems to handle
23:50
save 3 for when we know what we're doing
E
23:50
EJ
1) Market module is still running - Yun is working for the patch

2) Bridged asset is locked - not sure we gonna care about this

3) Freeze IBC channel b/w Osmosis/Juno and Terra @sunnya97
VB
23:50
Viktor Bunin
with the new chain
S?
23:50
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
I'm putting together a Notion to try and organize all this.
E
23:50
EJ
makes perfect sense
23:50
awesome
C
23:50
CGA
Sweet
VB
23:50
Viktor Bunin
thank you @OxSpaydh
C|
23:50
Caleb L. Power | AxB | Dβ‚€ | MD
awesome
j|
23:50
jiyun | DSRV
@OxSpaydh THX!
JS
23:51
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
what about crescent, secret, sifchain, injective, and kava
IP
23:54
Isidoros Passadis
❀️
23:55
why do we not care about bridged assets?
23:55
or do you mean it's ok if we launch with them being locked until we figure out how to get them off safely?
SA
23:55
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
OSMO/UST pool currently has $75M in it
23:56
That will be drained
E
23:56
EJ
I think those ppl are not that related to terra and thats the one of the problem we need to solve
J
23:56
James Parillo
if we're trying to close off all these IBC connections, why are we restarting the chain right now?
E
23:56
EJ
trying to list up the problems with least complex interests
SA
23:56
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
Also, I don’t think other AMMs had bonded liquidity
JS
23:58
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
for sure, just thinking through other ibc connections. if someone is mucking around in core this is the time to make those changes.
13 May 2022
Y
00:04
Yeon
To make sure, we are talking about Terra classic. right ??
j|
00:05
jiyun | DSRV
terra classic = re-run with no swap
Y
00:05
Yeon
Yes
J
00:05
Jess
Let me know when tagged - will work on patches right after
ZM
00:05
Zaki Manian
I am looking into IBC changes that would protect osmosis
JS
00:06
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
thank you
S?
00:08
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
RELAUNCH NOTION RECAP
I've separated the table into 3 categories based on the timeline, so we can focus on the urgent tasks. The first card is just here to summarize the topic/objective of each of the three stages.

Let's organize tasks between
πŸ”’Blockers: things that have been agreed on and need implementing (technically or socially) before moving forwards.
πŸ’¬Discussions and solution design. Things around which we have yet to form a consensus.

Here's the link. It should automatically give you read-write permission.
https://silk-bird-b29.notion.site/Relaunch-18fdf502d9a34bbb8b9301b9bda03712

The idea is to add everyone here to the docs so we can assign peeps to tasks and I create a table of users we can reuse for votes. Other info (e.g. voting power) can be added to the table later if we believe it is relevant to the decision making process.

I might have to collect your Notion addresses if the link does not automatically adds you to the doc.
j|
00:08
jiyun | DSRV
summary.
1. re-run chain with no swap
2. after then, we have time or not, until escape assets come from outside.
J
00:08
James Parillo
Quick update for other IBC DeFi chains/apps:

-- Osmosis DEX has OSMO/UST TVL = $50,748,967
-- Crescent DEX has UST pools totaling ~ $1mm TVL
-- JunoSwap has UST pools totaling ~ $450K USD
-- SecretSwap doesn't have UST pools
-- SiennaSwap on Secret - most TVL per pool = $9K USD
-- Injective has 8491 UST
ZM
00:09
Zaki Manian
What we need to do is the the state of channel-1 on Terra to closed
00:09
in the network restart
00:09
this will kill send/recieves from osmosis
B-
00:10
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
Crescent had ust/luna pools as well
ZM
00:10
Zaki Manian
do you know the channel on the terra side to Cescent
JS
00:11
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
Channel-49
YY
00:11
Yun Yeo
only thing we need to relaunch the network is https://github.com/terra-money/core/pull/760 ??
JS
00:11
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
and this @yun_yeo
ZM
00:12
Zaki Manian
Channel 49 and an channel 1
S?
00:12
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
I've added this to the Market Swap Lock card.
00:16
Updated
PFC invited THORchain BULL
TB
00:20
THORchain BULL
Hi
A
00:22
Aries @SynergyNodes
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Welcome.
S?
00:24
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Everyone, to facilitate the org process, please add your Name and Notion email address to the following table, so we can tag you in tasks and discussions:

https://silk-bird-b29.notion.site/586e4f99774f4c49b81a869c31622feb?v=6aee2d189bd44ef3a8f35e4a428cead3
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§ pinned this message
A
00:26
Aries @SynergyNodes
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Just stop the node for now.
THORchain BULL invited Daniel Pratte
A
00:28
Aries @SynergyNodes
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Now, just wait for annoucments. But, you will need to upgrade to version v0.5.19 or if there is any other new version. Also, I think you have to download a snapshot to sync and start the node since you missed the v0.5.19 upgrade.
N
00:29
NGINE | BlockNgine Validators
Should consider something like this https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/1069.pdf
which is similar to how UST works but with a collateralization factor as well.
r
00:32
rekt0x
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πŸ‘
j|
00:32
jiyun | DSRV
Not bit info at now, there is some miss calc about sdk.Coin. in cosmos sdk, It’s Int so 2^256.
00:32
want clear share.
00:32
my miss.
ZM
00:33
Zaki Manian
The only thing that would go wrong here is all the stake was delegated and overflowed tendermint voting power
00:33
everything else should be a big int
DK
00:36
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
In reply to this message
validators blocked new staking yesterday
SA
00:36
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
https://github.com/terra-money/core/pull/761/files
D
00:38
Dev
Having a hard sense grokking from the channel, is the general sentiment in the channel that they are in favor of preventing UST bridging out on IBC?
00:39
(Presuming that sentiment in channel == emergency proxy of Terra governance??)
J
00:40
James Parillo
In reply to this message
At least to Osmosis and Crescent
EJ invited Zon
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S?
00:53
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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Added to the Notion recap
00:54
Anyone working on the crescent channel freeze?
ZM
00:54
Zaki Manian
crescent is that PR
00:54
does anyone know the channel id for juno?
S?
00:55
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Ok, is anyone working on the Osmosis freeze then? ^^
JS
00:55
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
In reply to this message
Also included!
ZM
00:56
Zaki Manian
yeah it disables channel-49 to juno
JS
00:58
Jason Stallings (octalmage) πŸŒ–
In reply to this message
channel-20
YY
00:58
Yun Yeo
so need to block channel-20 too?
ZM
00:58
Zaki Manian
yeah
YY
00:58
Yun Yeo
okay I'm on it
S?
00:59
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
Oook, got it. Updated the recap
00:59
We need to get in contact with Wormhole to prepare the restart and so that their guardians can sync with the network as soon as possible.
A
01:02
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
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What do we know about this?
H
01:02
Hyung-Kyu (hqueue) | DSRV
why don’t we block all IBC channeles instead of blocking selected ones?
For example, there are other channels btw osmosis and terra
even though there is no (much) user in other channels, someone can use other channels if they want (and someone can run relayer for that channel)
ZM
01:03
Zaki Manian
creating a new channel doesn't have access to the same pools on the dexes
01:03
it will be a new asset on the reciever side
01:03
should not be risky
H
01:03
Hyung-Kyu (hqueue) | DSRV
yeah, but someone can make new pool too
ZM
01:03
Zaki Manian
but the LPs know the risks
H
01:04
Hyung-Kyu (hqueue) | DSRV
In reply to this message
agree and hope everybody know the risk well.
MB
01:05
Mar Bar
Waking up. Is this a genesis file restart or store migration? @zakimanian
ZM
01:06
Zaki Manian
store migration
YY
01:06
Yun Yeo
now blocked three channels

```
"channel-1", // Osmosis
"channel-49", // Crescent
"channel-20", // Juno
```
MB
01:06
Mar Bar
Is removing ibc an option?
01:06
Not sure why it needs to stay. Then upgrade in the future to restore it
H
01:07
Hyung-Kyu (hqueue) | DSRV
In reply to this message
Thanks for introducing array and for loops. I was about to suggest it πŸ™‚
j|
01:08
jiyun | DSRV
Too many lesson and learn here include telegram usage.
YY
01:13
Yun Yeo
So now good to merge the PR for new release?
S?
01:16
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
πŸ˜‚
SA
01:16
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
In reply to this message
No, just a code change
01:16
Block height based
e
01:18
etienne | Setten
Hey guys, was sleeping the last 8 hours, what’s new except stopping validators?
D
01:18
Dev
The disable fork height should be a few blocks after the halt height right?
j|
01:19
jiyun | DSRV
Who change room title?
01:19
TVL -> TRL?
D
01:19
Dev
You can't have code changes on the same block as the halt height, because halt height block will get re-executed under the same binary
01:19
At least as far as I understand
SA
01:20
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
In reply to this message
There’s no more TVL
j|
01:20
jiyun | DSRV
lol
MB
01:20
Mar Bar
We need reactions turned on
01:20
First order of business
YY
01:21
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
Halt height is 7607789. So set fork height to 7607790. Should we set more later block?
S?
01:21
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
Chain is halted. Three steps:
1. (Short term) Restart in « fail safe » mode to allow withdrawals of exogenous collateral without crashing other IBC chains
2. (Medium term) Restructure the blockchain or create a new L1, compensate everyone with equity in the new chain and migrate the ecosystem
3. (Long term) Consider new stable coin designs

See the pinned message and Notion for more detail
e
01:24
etienne | Setten
thanks
01:24
stopping is done, but I think 1) is kind of useless
01:24
why keep it running while we don't know where we are going? at this point there's close to no downside to have it stopped
01:25
sorry meant 1)
01:25
like, why restart the chain?
IP
01:25
Isidoros Passadis
In reply to this message
need to extricate assets also so that there at least can be some semblance of a collective decision by stake holders about the future of the chain
D
01:26
Dev
In reply to this message
Oh I see. I _think_ thats safe. I don't know how others feel, I feel like adding another block of wiggle room protects against any odd tendermint issues that there could be a misunderstanding on due to emergency-ness right now
TB
01:30
THORchain BULL
Remi has an idea for the name, it's nice : Terra Nova
$terra
S?
01:31
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Can wait to put my $Nova stables to work for that sweet 20% APY πŸ˜‚
MB
01:32
Mar Bar
What was the last block?
01:32
Also will wormhole still run or are they shutting down the bridge?
YY
01:32
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
Halt height was 7607789. So set fork height to 7607790.
j|
01:33
jiyun | DSRV
In reply to this message
Final?
MB
01:33
Mar Bar
I’d run a few blocks before so you know you have consensus then fork
01:33
Right away could be tricky cause some validators halted before
KT
01:34
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
I'll ask them and add to the group if possible
A
01:35
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
We could build something that was never built before, and it could be huge - achieving consensus via longwave radio by involving the worldwide radio amateur network.
In these uncertain times, with WW3 knocking on our doorsteps, a chain that can leverage the existing longwave radio network means that it could survive even a nuclear war/winter.
It does not need internet to function.
SA
01:35
Sunny Aggarwal 🧿
In reply to this message
@hendrik
c
01:37
curlycrypto | StakeWith.Us
In reply to this message
we halted earlier. halt height 7607742.
HE
01:41
Helen | Everstake
One small question, did I understand correctly that the Market Swap Lock task is now a priority?
S?
01:45
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
Correct. I think @yun_yeo is working on it:
https://github.com/terra-money/core/pull/760
HE
01:45
Helen | Everstake
In reply to this message
got it, thanks
MB
01:51
Mar Bar
I might be missing some context. What is the reason to restart now?
S?
01:51
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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this
N
01:52
Nikolay Everstake | Atticlab
In reply to this message
So we should wait. right?
MB
01:52
Mar Bar
In reply to this message
What assets are being extricated?

Trying to grasp the whole picture
ZM
01:52
Zaki Manian
Beth
S?
01:52
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
bETH is probably the bulk of the value
YY
01:53
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
Implementation was done, I'm just waiting confirmation from validators.

All good to make new release?
j|
01:54
jiyun | DSRV
check.
MB
01:54
Mar Bar
Over what bridge is Beth?
YY
01:54
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
wormhole
j|
01:54
jiyun | DSRV
wormhole
MB
01:54
Mar Bar
Okay do we know when they will come online with the restart?
01:55
@leo_zl you around?
S?
01:55
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
No we don't we need to get them into this conversation
j|
01:55
jiyun | DSRV
@yun_yeo might be many validators feel tired & do other chains job. so dont hesitate. almost valis here with you.
01:56
proof of time.
Ankit invited Felix Lutsch
MB
01:56
Mar Bar
In reply to this message
If your main concern is wormhole assets we should get confirmation they will come online no? Or has that been confirmed
N
01:57
Nikolay Everstake | Atticlab
In reply to this message
Ok. What should we do?
KT
01:57
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
I'm talking with them in separate group
01:57
Will try to move conversation here
S?
01:57
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Thanks @kayvflu
j|
01:58
jiyun | DSRV
@yun_yeo make & share release.
e
01:59
etienne | Setten
personally stopped my validator this morning so prob not at the right height etc
01:59
not sure how many are in that case
YY
02:00
Yun Yeo
okay I'm on it
02:00
let's make new release now
Zaki Manian invited Jo Kash
J
02:01
Jess
@yun_yeo that's a go? i'll prep patches and all
YY
02:01
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
yes that PR is all
J
02:01
Jess
can you tag it?
YY
02:01
Yun Yeo
sure
J
02:01
Jess
πŸ‘
Jo Kash invited Ryan
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S?
02:03
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Quick check list before we get carried away. There are three things we need to coordinate:
1. The market swap lock
https://github.com/terra-money/core/pull/760

2. The freeze of IBC channels to Osmo, Crescent and Juno
https://github.com/terra-money/core/pull/761/files

3. Getting Guardians on board so that wormhole can sync and resume asap
@kayvflu will confirm when this is ready
j|
02:05
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02:06
tag out
J
02:06
Jess
thanks
R
02:07
Roman
We can start update?
I
02:07
Ilhan | Staker Space
when are we restarting ?
YY
02:07
Yun Yeo
yes
02:07
let's resume network
J
02:08
JiuKelo | 01node.com
shall we start the nodes with 0.5.20 ?
YY
02:08
Yun Yeo
yes
02:08
v0.5.20
A
02:08
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
stake.systems ready
S?
02:08
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Guys, we have no response from wormhole yet
J
02:08
JiuKelo | 01node.com
01node ready
j|
02:08
jiyun | DSRV
Resume network with 0.5.20
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c
02:08
curlycrypto | StakeWith.Us
how about those halt-height not 7607789? can we start as well with the new binary?
YY
02:09
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
It's safe to upgrade before height 7607789
c
02:09
curlycrypto | StakeWith.Us
In reply to this message
thanks
KT
02:10
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
Working on it
K
02:10
Konstantin | BTC.Secure
BTC.Secure ready, we are waiting for a decision to launch
j|
02:10
jiyun | DSRV
lfg guys. new start!!
K
02:10
Konstantin | BTC.Secure
Did I understand correctly that we are updating, but we are not starting yet?
S?
02:11
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
Yes
One.QRC20 invited Marco Cecconi
J
02:12
JiuKelo | 01node.com
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@yun_yeo said we should start ... so.... shall we stop now?
K
02:14
Konstantin | BTC.Secure
In reply to this message
I think this is risk for db corruption. Maybe you need to wait with started node.
R
02:14
Roman
Please someone publish announcement in discord
GB
02:14
George Bunea | Syncnode
I am runing wormhole node as well, announcing all the participants
02:14
most probably all are very tired
N
02:15
Nikolay Everstake | Atticlab
Everstake ready. we are waiting for a decision to launch
e
02:15
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
I can publish an announcement but with what? do we know how many halted at the right height?
02:15
if you guys launch back with 6 validators, it will hardly be "consensus" when it comes to governance etc
R
02:16
Roman
That's why we need an announcement
Y
02:16
Yeon
DELIGHT ready
e
02:16
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
but then we need a snapshot too no?
F
02:16
Fabian | blockscape
Our height is at 7607790, so I’m guessing it’s not safe to start for us
R
02:17
Roman
Yun said that it's safe to start even if your node stopped at different height
GB
02:17
George Bunea | Syncnode
should be safe for everybody to start
R
02:17
Roman
Yun please confirm
MA
02:17
Marius Abalaru
In reply to this message
is it ok to start now ?
e
02:17
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
ah ok good
YY
02:17
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
oh height 7607790?? didn't we halt chain at 7607789?
e
02:17
etienne | Setten
let me update then
YY
02:17
Yun Yeo
it should be before or at 7607789
F
02:18
Fabian | blockscape
We’re at height 7607790, round 0, step 3
YY
02:18
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
Ah ok. Its still in consensus.

If you havn't delete cs.wal file, I think its ok.
GB
02:18
George Bunea | Syncnode
same here, so it's OK
F
02:18
Fabian | blockscape
Yeah, should be fine, thanks for the confirmation
PC
02:19
Peter Chainlayer
Shouldn’t we set a start time a bit in the future to give people some time? Lot of US people might have gone to bed after halt or do we just start and let consensus decide when we get new blocks?
L
02:19
Leo
all our nodes are on 7607790 too
S?
02:19
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
I think that's a sane approach
L
02:19
Leo
restarting too early will just get a lot of people forked off again (including Wormhole guardians)
MA
02:19
Marius Abalaru
"height": "7607790",
"round": "0",
"step": 3,
e
02:20
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
we're at ...790
S?
02:20
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Especially since we don't have a solid reply from Wormhole yet and they'll need to be in the loop too
02:20
Otherwise we're going to create even more frustration on the user side
02:20
And our partners
YY
02:21
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
...790 block was generated? or you mean it's in consensus?
JS
02:21
Jeff Schroeder | Jump Crypto
In reply to this message
@leo_zl can take it if he’s not. I got the missed messages reobserved and a lot of users were happy
Jo Kash invited Brett
N
02:23
Nikolay Everstake | Atticlab
all our nodes on block 7607789
Z
02:25
Zion | TFL | OC
In reply to this message
Just jumping in. Could someone enlighten me on what this new release is for or what it does?
YY
02:25
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
I think we can let consensus decide...
j|
02:25
jiyun | DSRV
majority is no swap on chain and run.
e
02:25
etienne | Setten
Guys can I add Seb here? he has been a really valuable member of the community and I think if there must be discussions about the future of terra here he would def be useful even if not a validator
GB
02:26
George Bunea | Syncnode
In reply to this message
this is for validators
02:26
discussions would be later
02:26
we already have a lot of confusion
e
02:26
etienne | Setten
ok ic, makes sense
GB
02:26
George Bunea | Syncnode
stop, restart, stop restart
02:26
we have no plan yet
e
02:26
etienne | Setten
yeah tg chats are awful to synchornize tbh
GB
02:27
George Bunea | Syncnode
indeed
F
02:27
Fabian | blockscape
agreed
L
02:27
Leo
All responses from Wormhole guardians so far (4 in total... I suppose most are asleep) were in favor of restarting. Are there any notable risks they need to be aware of?
j|
02:27
jiyun | DSRV
thats why I still wakeup from this room made.
Y
02:29
Yeon
πŸ˜…
MA
02:29
Marius Abalaru
guys, do we have the Go for start with 0.5.20?
0
02:29
0base.vc
0base.vc started
j|
02:29
jiyun | DSRV
Do someone announcing about v0.5.20 in discord?
R
02:30
Roman
In reply to this message
no
Y
02:30
Yeon
Should we start node after announcement ??
j|
02:30
jiyun | DSRV
nop just want share
GB
02:30
George Bunea | Syncnode
what's with the rush? do we know if we have enough voting power? are all the validators aware of this? many of us just woke up, others are sleeping after the last days of chaos
j|
02:30
jiyun | DSRV
validators not in this room.
02:30
In reply to this message
+1
02:30
no rush here.
I
02:31
Ilhan | Staker Space
i think if you did restart don't close it anymore
GB
02:31
George Bunea | Syncnode
someone who has the rights should post on terra validators discord as well
e
02:31
etienne | Setten
if in my logs I only have precommits for 790 I might still be on 789 right?
D
02:31
Dev
Wait all, you need to be certain that 2/3rds are here
02:31
not just 1/3rd down
02:31
it will cause conflicting states
R
02:31
Roman
In reply to this message
yep
D
02:32
Dev
did someone make a spreadsheet like the last upgrade here
e
02:32
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
thanks
j|
02:32
jiyun | DSRV
Who can organize now? or do we have to wait sunny 1 more time?
MA
02:32
Marius Abalaru
Dokia/ Inotel are ready
K
02:33
KyuMin Jeong
Anyone has admin right, please invite my B-Harvest colleague.
@lucas_ku
jiyun | DSRV invited lucas@crescent | B-harvest
0
02:33
0base.vc
Oh
K
02:33
KyuMin Jeong
@dsrvlabs_jiyunkim
Thank you very much!
j|
02:33
jiyun | DSRV
Invited.
YY
02:33
Yun Yeo
I just make notice only for validaator discord
J
02:34
JoseCT | Stakely.io
We have upgraded but not started yet. I think this kind of movements should be better organized and announced properly. In fact, following this kind of chats in Telegrams is not easy. Why not creating a new role in the Terra Validators server in Discord and work in a new channel there only available for that role?
l
02:34
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
Thx join here.
R
02:34
Roman
In reply to this message
Already resume?
02:34
I thought we still wait
I
02:34
Ilhan | Staker Space
In reply to this message
the message contains resume your node, alot of people will restart
YY
02:35
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
ah ok
A
02:35
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
so
02:35
starting or not
02:35
dont get it
S?
02:35
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
I think everyone should standby
J
02:35
JoseCT | Stakely.io
I don't think we should start
R
02:35
Rohit | Coinbase Cloud
Never seen more confusion on something this serious.
S?
02:35
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Let's get confirmation from everyone that they've applied the necessary patch
Z
02:35
Zion | TFL | OC
In reply to this message
Agreed. We should have a Discord announcement first
S?
02:35
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Once we're sure we got enough voting power
02:35
Then we can start again
e
02:35
etienne | Setten
do we still care about oracle votes?
A
02:35
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
stake.systems applied and ready
j|
02:35
jiyun | DSRV
Photo
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02:36
yun already do that.
Z
02:36
Zion | TFL | OC
In reply to this message
Oh sorry didn’t see that
A
02:36
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
"update" means start, you know
Y
02:36
Yeon
Should we go ?
R
02:36
Roman
but we need confirmation that we have enough voting power
KT
02:37
Kai Tiurin
I believe we should wait a bit guys
02:37
No sense to start right now
02:37
We still don't have consensus on the Wormhole side
YY
02:37
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
I think we can do abstain
j|
02:37
jiyun | DSRV
I think big vali already here, but can’t confirm they are awake.
KT
02:37
Kai Tiurin
And we have no strong leadership of launching in technical terms
02:38
Do we have enough voting power? Are all the validators that are going to launch on the same block?
MA
02:38
Marius Abalaru
ok then, waiting for a Go, I did the upgrade fore the binary
KT
02:38
Kai Tiurin
Launching right now will just bring more mixing up
PC
02:39
Peter Chainlayer
what was halt height again?
L
02:39
Leo
7607790
PC
02:39
Peter Chainlayer
thx, 1 block behind then
j|
02:39
jiyun | DSRV
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-kWjBIuxToIE8iofbAPB6locmc7cSTdqOKNfKhgZez8/edit#gid=0. <β€” why this vote power document deleted?
02:39
all move to notion?
PC
02:40
Peter Chainlayer
not sure, someone deleted everything yesterday after restart
Y
02:40
Yeon
In reply to this message
+1
S?
02:40
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
No idea, but I just created a new one anyway:
02:40
Please fill this table so we get a better idea of how ready we are:
https://silk-bird-b29.notion.site/6c7686262d414a2990c53fb54e71667f?v=a113460ab4aa45fc9d16faf45f2bde2a
Kai Tiurin pinned this message
j|
02:40
jiyun | DSRV
Nice.
KT
02:40
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
🀝
J
02:41
JoseCT | Stakely.io
Maybe we should add a new field for voting power?
PC
02:41
Peter Chainlayer
then we don't see voting power though
R
02:41
Roman
@yun_yeo please update the announcement, add a line so that validators don't start the node till new announcement
IP
02:41
Isidoros Passadis
In reply to this message
should do a check that they're at right block + version
S?
02:41
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
Good idea
j|
02:41
jiyun | DSRV
@OxSpaydh you save me lol
Yun Yeo invited Shilin
YY
02:42
Yun Yeo
@zhengshilin here
S
02:43
Shilin
Thank you! @yun_yeo
KT
02:43
Kai Tiurin
So what we need to do is
1. fill the table to see if the network even can be launched
2. wait for some kind of consensus from Wormhole guardians
3. schedule the time of launch. We're hugely out of sync right now, not everyone is online now as it was yesterday
PC
02:44
Peter Chainlayer
what source we gonna use for voting power? terra.stake.id is down, finder only shows %
e
02:44
etienne | Setten
updated annoncement on discord
KT
02:44
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
% are good
YY
02:44
Yun Yeo
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io your height 7607790 is result of terrad status?
S?
02:44
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
% are fine yeah
L
02:45
Leo
Our 7607790 is from Prometheus metrics
K
02:46
Konstantin | BTC.Secure
In reply to this message
https://tpa.smartstake.io/validators

you can change columns
PC
02:47
Peter Chainlayer
changed voting power to number and added Sum πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
S?
02:47
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Thanks Peter, good call
K
02:47
Konstantin | BTC.Secure
In reply to this message
just open you profile on this service
S?
02:47
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
We need folks from Orion and Smartstake I believe
PC
02:47
Peter Chainlayer
In reply to this message
what do you mean?
S?
02:48
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Hashed too
YY
02:48
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
hmm can you check terrad status result? want to check wether block 7607790 generated or just in consensus.
K
02:48
Konstantin | BTC.Secure
In reply to this message
Photo
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1280Γ—883, 54.8 KB
S?
02:48
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
@vlad4343 Are you up?
PC
02:49
Peter Chainlayer
yeah already filled it in, but I changed the voting power column on notion to be a number and added sum so we can see how much % we have
GB
02:49
George Bunea | Syncnode
In reply to this message
it's in consensus for many of us
02:49
terrad status is not working with the chain stopped
A
02:49
Aries @SynergyNodes
Guys so are we starting the chain now? Sorry, I will on road from past 1 hour.
S?
02:50
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
No
0
02:50
0base.vc
Friday the 13th. Lucky day.
02:50
LFG
A
02:50
Aries @SynergyNodes
In reply to this message
Ok
S?
02:50
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
We are setting up for it, but not spinning up yet
02:50
Please fill the pinned form asap
02:50
:)
L
02:50
Leo
Photo
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This is terrad status
e
02:51
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
lgtm
A
02:51
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
In reply to this message
The node is stopped so I cannot query status. The result is from the consensus state
YY
02:51
Yun Yeo
yup look good
02:51
prometeus seems showing consensus block number
C|
02:52
Claudiu Nae | 01node.com
"latest_block_height": "7607789" for us as well
l
02:52
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
cat ~/.terra/data/priv_validator_state.json
YY
02:52
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
πŸ‘
L
02:52
Leo
It seems we need confirmation from:

- 2/3 of stake weight
- at least 13 Wormhole guardians

Right?
YY
02:52
Yun Yeo
I think yes
L
02:53
Leo
(13 Wormhole guardians on Friday the 13th.... Oo)
H
02:53
Hiep
We are also at 7607790 I'm afraid
I
02:53
Ilhan | Staker Space
can someone add Staker Space to the form, we have a voting power around 0.2%

validator node is updated to latest version
A
02:53
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
In reply to this message
Oh
C|
02:53
Claudiu Nae | 01node.com
cat ~/.terra/data/priv_validator_state.json
{
"height": "7607790", uhm
YY
02:53
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
This good
02:53
under consensus
A
02:53
Alex Ast | stakesystems.io
In reply to this message
Same here
C|
02:54
Claudiu Nae | 01node.com
alright
j|
02:54
jiyun | DSRV
In reply to this message
current block?
J
02:54
JoseCT | Stakely.io
In reply to this message
I'd need your height
I
02:54
Ilhan | Staker Space
In reply to this message
hold on, let me ask
Edouard Lavidalle | Stakin invited Tiago | Stakin
j|
02:55
jiyun | DSRV
@JoseCT_HS will help.
L
02:55
Leo
"height": "7607790",
"round": 0,
"step": 3,

here too
J
02:55
JustMe
Orion:
"height": "7607790",
"round": 0,
"step": 2,
J
02:56
JoseCT | Stakely.io
In reply to this message
Should I fill the form for Orion?
j|
02:56
jiyun | DSRV
I don’t think so. we need awake person.
J
02:57
JustMe
I am not sure which form, was not following the conversation. I am just seing ppl sharing last block
KT
02:57
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
Form is in pinned message
02:57
#17
S?
02:57
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
We need Hashed and Orion on board
J
02:57
JustMe
What does β€˜Ready’ mean? Is there any requirements except being able to start terrad?
02:57
ah, 5.20
j|
02:58
jiyun | DSRV
hashed looks here.
02:58
Orion??
J
02:58
JustMe
here
S?
02:58
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Ready means you're ready to go as soon as the final call to relaunch is made.
02:58
So, you've got the latest version, and some man power to click the buttons :D
j|
02:58
jiyun | DSRV
we got new field cunsensus status on notion.
02:59
Guys update plz
CC
02:59
Calin Chitu
I am ready also
j|
02:59
jiyun | DSRV
I can check hashed and delight awake lol
Calin Chitu invited Bogdan A.
J
02:59
JustMe
In reply to this message
ok. just built 0.5.20. Can start terrad as well
CC
02:59
Calin Chitu
Bogdan is in my team, he will handle if I’m away
j|
03:01
jiyun | DSRV
Do we need round & step not on 7607790?
03:01
might be not right?
KT
03:01
Kai Tiurin
@leo_zl @hendrik any updates from Wormhole side?
J
03:02
JoseCT | Stakely.io
In reply to this message
You should fill the form of the pinned message
J
03:02
JustMe
In reply to this message
I can’t. Doesn’t allow to edit
F
03:02
Fabian | blockscape
Are you logged in?
Y
03:02
Yeon
In reply to this message
I am here 😊
e
03:02
etienne | Setten
login into notion and click the edit button
J
03:03
JustMe
Ah, my bad
L
03:03
Leo
In reply to this message
I count six awake guardians
KT
03:03
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
How many of them in total?
Y
03:03
Yeon
hashed is also here
L
03:03
Leo
we need 13 guardians for consensus
03:03
ideally 14 to have some wiggle room
03:04
I'd be surprised if anyone wasn't in favor of allowing wh users to get their assets out
I
03:04
Ilhan | Staker Space
"height": "7607790", can someone please add to notion (staker space)
CC
03:04
Calin Chitu
TLDR: should we already start the terra validator with .20?
KT
03:05
Kai Tiurin
WE DON'T START YET
P
03:05
PFC
What is the problem of starting early?
J
03:05
JoseCT | Stakely.io
In reply to this message
Just upgrade your node to .20 and fill the form from the pinned message
KT
03:05
Kai Tiurin
(sorry, just marked message to be visible)
j|
03:06
jiyun | DSRV
hashed, DSRV, Orion is ready & awake.
03:06
everstake?
03:06
SmartStake?
KT
03:06
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
I believe the only risk is if we start the chain and wormhole won't start
S?
03:06
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
DO NOT START YOUR VALIDATOR. IF YOU HAVE ALREADY, KEEP IT RUNNING.

Please fill this table then standby
https://silk-bird-b29.notion.site/6c7686262d414a2990c53fb54e71667f?v=a113460ab4aa45fc9d16faf45f2bde2a
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§ pinned this message
j|
03:07
jiyun | DSRV
Can someone contact to everstake & smartstake?
SR
03:07
Seth Riney
from Staked, need to build, double confirm block heights. is it wise to target a start time?
j|
03:08
jiyun | DSRV
just wanna check ready to run.
P
03:08
PFC
Smartstake is probably asleep
03:08
He went to bed an hour or two ago
S?
03:08
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
I believe it is, but probably best to wait until we have a clearer ETA on wormhole guardians
03:10
We are actively trying to organize stuff with them rn, please bear with ^^
SR
03:10
Seth Riney
We are a guardian, whose keeping track?
L
03:11
Leo
I'm counting 8 guardians
HE
03:11
Helen | Everstake
In reply to this message
we are here
S?
03:12
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
I'll be helping with that soon, can you help me design the db? Which tabs are relevant for us to gather data on the preparedness of the guardians?
03:12
In reply to this message
Great! Please see the pinned message 😊
HE
03:12
Helen | Everstake
In reply to this message
ok
P
03:13
PFC
We're a couple of block before halt height.. should be g2g for the next hour
WC
03:14
William Chen | TERRAN.ONE
@OxSpaydh what's your notion group
03:14
should we move to discord
P
03:15
PFC
Probably should just move to Twitter.
Less people there
SR
03:15
Seth Riney
In reply to this message
I'm catching up,
j|
03:15
jiyun | DSRV
Is there no tfl members here?
S?
03:15
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
wdym sorry?
j|
03:15
jiyun | DSRV
before we start, just wanna 1 more check.
Z
03:15
Zon
In reply to this message
If to the greater public you should use Agora to keep things civil. You’ll get too much spam on twitter
J
03:16
JoseCT | Stakely.io
In reply to this message
@Zion_schum
A
03:16
Aries @SynergyNodes
Guys, how do I get the Consensus status?
P
03:16
PFC
In reply to this message
It'd be nice to get their weigh in
WC
03:16
William Chen | TERRAN.ONE
In reply to this message
probs
03:16
liability
Z
03:16
Zon
In reply to this message
There are many
YY
03:16
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
cat ~/.terra/data/priv_validator_state.json
e
03:16
etienne | Setten
please when we are enough/ready to start, ping me and I will announce on discord
KT
03:16
Kai Tiurin
@zakimanian @jackzampolin @sunnya97 @dokwon @vshvsh hey guys if anyone is around: do you have any additional suggestions/concerns regarding our current plan? Some advice from big brains would be great to have rn
A
03:16
Aries @SynergyNodes
In reply to this message
Run this command without starting the node right?
YY
03:17
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
yes
A
03:17
Aries @SynergyNodes
In reply to this message
got it
S?
03:17
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
πŸ‘
l
03:19
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
Discord server is back? I’m in the server, I couldn’t see anything..
S?
03:19
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
Once you have a better idea of how to structure the form, can you help me name and organize the tab? Let's get it to guardians once it's ready :)
j|
03:20
jiyun | DSRV
I finally want to check what is the willingness of TFL.
Do you want to re-run over?
Or just waiting, community decision?
I didn't feel their willing for an hour.
I
03:20
Ilhan | Staker Space
Is the price-oracle important to run with the restart ?
j|
03:20
jiyun | DSRV
I officially ask TFL now.
YY
03:20
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
better to vote abstain to avoid slashing
j|
03:21
jiyun | DSRV
I spend 3 days to saving community, and spend whole day with this room.
MB
03:21
Mar Bar
Does slashing matter at these prices
j|
03:21
jiyun | DSRV
If there is no tfl willing, We need to change stance about re-run.
l
03:22
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
turning on price/feeder service?
S?
03:24
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
I understand how you feel, but rn I think what matters is to let trapped users get their assets out of the chain.
Once that's done, the chain can be run or halted again and everyone can discuss what to do next, or even just drop the whole thing.
KT
03:25
Kai Tiurin
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@hanjukim
MB
03:25
Mar Bar
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Does the chain need to be there for that or can guardians vote to recover the funds
GB
03:26
George Bunea | Syncnode
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we need the chain to be up
KT
03:26
Kai Tiurin
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Recover where?
GB
03:26
George Bunea | Syncnode
if you talk about wormhole, we need the chain to be up
KT
03:26
Kai Tiurin
Guardians can't make such a decision
GB
03:26
George Bunea | Syncnode
for the users to be able to recover funds
KT
03:28
Kai Tiurin
So we need to run the chain so bETH would be either taken by the borrowers or liquidated
PK
03:28
Paul Kim
In reply to this message
the reason for restart is to be able to transfer collateral assets
KT
03:28
Kai Tiurin
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Yes
S?
03:28
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Yeah, Imagine Guardians bridged assets back every time Solana goes down... 😜
Ilhan | Staker Space invited Su
A
03:28
Aries @SynergyNodes
Any ETA on starting the chain?
j|
03:28
jiyun | DSRV
We are technical contributors. not decision maker.
P
03:29
PFC
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We are validators.. part of that is making decisions
KT
03:29
Kai Tiurin
@isidorosp fully agree
I
03:29
Ilhan | Staker Space
I hope it's not a short lived solution we are doing, hope everybody is for 1-2 months so everybody can get their assets back
03:29
*is in
MB
03:29
Mar Bar
Who is lping ust on eth? I feel like they should be as concerned as osmosis
j|
03:29
jiyun | DSRV
In reply to this message
yes. I mean final decision as of now.
SR
03:30
Seth Riney
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I'm not 100% sure what Guardians need to do, other than make sure they relay the are using is 0.5.20. They may need to restart, @leo?
L
03:30
Leo
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I've been wondering about this - does wh need to block UST too?
KT
03:30
Kai Tiurin
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It means that TFL has no objections rn, right?
L
03:31
Leo
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Restart their RPC nodes on 0.5.20 is all
MB
03:31
Mar Bar
Tbh I would if I was you,
03:31
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^^
PK
03:31
Paul Kim
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correct
GB
03:31
George Bunea | Syncnode
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good question
L
03:31
Leo
Either way we shouldn't rush this
MB
03:32
Mar Bar
Does wormhole have some sort of governance for this?
L
03:32
Leo
The situation seems sufficiently stable to think about it carefully first
HH
03:32
Hendrik Hofstadt
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Social consensus of guardians for picking a fork right now for wormhole
L
03:33
Leo
There's no fork
P
03:33
PFC
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Agree.. we really haven't been part of any decisions so far.
It's like they don't want to make it
HH
03:34
Hendrik Hofstadt
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To restart in this case. Ah I thought hard disable markets. Need to read up on the logs
L
03:34
Leo
Hard disable markets (and IBC channels) but as canonical columbus-5 chain
03:36
Only thing that matters is the 2/3+ opinion
j|
03:36
jiyun | DSRV
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It’s hard without TFL.
DK
03:37
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
sorry - what do we need?
03:38
@yun_yeo could you standby?
S?
03:38
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
TFL's blessing to restart the chain for exogenous collateral withdrawal I believe
03:39
Roughly 63% of the voting power is in favor of it already
DK
03:39
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
Ah ok
03:39
@hendrik @leo_zl could you guide on network launch sequence?
03:39
i havent done it in a while and i forget
B-
03:39
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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I understand validators represent community interests but these decisions have hugh ramifications. If tfl/others want to play safe for legal reasons and these decisions ought to be taken by others, I am afraid everyone should be taking legal opinions before chiming in. It can't be that TFL led from the beginning and now it's upto validators or community (which isnt represented here)
DK
03:40
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
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dont worry we're here
03:40
just swamped on lots of messages
03:40
hope you understand
03:40
ok how do we move forward?
KT
03:41
Kai Tiurin
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We are ready to start and waiting for the Wormhole consensus
S?
03:41
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
We are waiting for 2/3 of voting power + enough wh guardians to get the bridge running upon launch
j|
03:41
jiyun | DSRV
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+1
S?
03:43
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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03:43
@bigb4ever Could you please fill the form in the pinned message?
B-
03:44
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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Yea doing it now
S?
03:44
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Yodabest
J
03:45
Jared | TFL
@etienne_n shall we make a start anouncement in discord?
S?
03:45
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
No, still waiting on WH
03:46
Please stand by
J
03:46
Jared | TFL
gotcha.
S?
03:46
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Thanks :)
J
03:46
Jared | TFL
can we enable emoji responses?
03:46
it will cut down on some of the chatter @ouiliame
S?
03:46
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
+1
e
03:46
etienne | Setten
@hanjukim is the admin of the group
JC
03:47
Jinhong Choi
@yun_yeo Do I have to turn on Oracle-feeder?
J
03:47
Jared | TFL
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plz ser, turn on reactions?

@hanjukim
YY
03:47
Yun Yeo
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Yea at least abstain
03:48
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How do I enable? Never tried before..
0
03:49
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03:50
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Since we're waiting on WH, how about we give everyone here a 30 minutes break?
YY
03:50
Yun Yeo
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Thanks but seems I’m not admin…
KT
03:51
Kai Tiurin
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@hanjukim is the single admin I believe
03:51
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It's a good idea
J
03:52
Jared | TFL
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πŸ™
l
03:52
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
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βœ…
S?
03:52
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Everyone, please take a 38 minutes break. Let's meet at half past the next hour and check up on WH. Please make sure you will be there, as you might be needed for the restart.
B-
03:52
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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done. sorry 5 am here
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§ pinned this message
S?
03:53
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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Eg. 15:52 here, I'll be back at 16:30
03:53
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No worries, thanks :) Happy to announce we have 74%
Y
03:54
Yeon
πŸ‘
j|
03:54
jiyun | DSRV
To saving the all community I suggest that we shuold do re-run, to escape exteranl assets from terra chain.
03:55
I don’t know what is the final result is.
03:55
But. we have to go back anyway.
03:56
before the re-run. We share this decision to every channels.
GB
03:56
George Bunea | Syncnode
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Nobody can say, unfortunatelly
j|
03:56
jiyun | DSRV
Let’s make successable fail. for the community.
S?
03:57
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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Yes, I think that's a very good idea. It'd be great to get an official announcement from terra money once we get 2/3 validators + guardians but before the actual restart
j|
03:57
jiyun | DSRV
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+1
S?
03:58
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
The only difference we can make to people now is:
1) maintain the system long enough for assets to be brought back
2) try to communicate as clearly as possible as to what is happening on our end so that people can adapt and avoid unnecessary anguish
03:58
IMHO
j|
03:58
jiyun | DSRV
I think every node operator think same thing. And we should not a target from legal risk.
03:59
From now, I suggest to all my dear validator, try our best until final re-run.
GB
04:00
George Bunea | Syncnode
I think validators should abstain for any public communications for now. Just support local communities
j|
04:00
jiyun | DSRV
Yes until 2/3+ and bETH ready.
S?
04:00
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
I believe the announcement should come from Terra’s official account
I
04:01
Ilhan | Staker Space
How long will the be maintained for ?
j|
04:01
jiyun | DSRV
We are the validators who keep trust & liveness & safty of community’s network. Let’s do our role.
04:02
I think every situation is end, Our conversation should be archived.
04:02
and open to community cleary
I
04:02
Ilhan | Staker Space
Is the goal of the current network just for cross-chain assets to be removed ?
j|
04:02
jiyun | DSRV
(after save bETH)
04:02
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IMO, YES.
S?
04:03
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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This is a very important question. What are the constraints here?
1- need to allow enough time to let assets be reclaimed
2- what else?
I
04:03
Ilhan | Staker Space
I think a month is good time!
04:03
at least!
j|
04:03
jiyun | DSRV
month enough?
Y
04:03
Yeon
month enough
S?
04:04
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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2- We may want to vote on the future of Terra using the governance module
j|
04:05
jiyun | DSRV
Who is good communicator here? My eng is very bad. but the announce should very careful & technically written.
04:05
TFL you wanna do?
B-
04:06
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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imo -> there should be a proposal to change governance voting timeframe to something like 6/12 hours or a day.
j|
04:06
jiyun | DSRV
It's not a criticism. I'm really asking.
04:06
future of terra is fully up to community.
S?
04:07
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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I think this would have been useful for the emergency measures concerning the peg, but for the future of terra, we might want to stick to longer timeframes
e
04:07
etienne | Setten
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I think even if we wanna vote through gov module, we can keep the chain halted until we have any idea about the direction we're taking
PC
04:07
Peter Chainlayer
you do realize that in the last hours of the chain people were able to buy billions of terra for scratch? and that onchain governance (assuming they got some out of it and its not all in exchanges) is pretty much in the hands of the person that scooped up the most Luna?
j|
04:07
jiyun | DSRV
IMO, if we re-run terra chain, luna & ust goes to 0. so the chain only can do is helping escape external assets.
e
04:08
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
we blocked staking
04:08
haven't checked if there was big moves before tho
I
04:08
Ilhan | Staker Space
But can be used for Governance
S?
04:08
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Not if it's not delegated no
j|
04:08
jiyun | DSRV
How about make off-chain gov?
04:09
1 head 1 vote.
04:09
(ideally)
PC
04:09
Peter Chainlayer
ah yeah thats true, right before the first halt there was quite a big move towards to current top 5 though, I presume from TFL?
S?
04:09
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Correct
04:09
But there might have been deposits from other entities too
DK
04:09
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
wait so
04:09
lot of messages
04:09
whats being deliberated?
S?
04:09
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
How long should the chain be kept running?
I
04:10
Ilhan | Staker Space
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1 month
B-
04:10
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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makes sense
S?
04:10
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
And can the governance module still be used despite the dirt cheap luna people might have been able to buy and stake
PC
04:10
Peter Chainlayer
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and someone asked if we should shorten onchain governance timeframe to a shorter one, to which I asked out loud if we still want to use it at all
DK
04:10
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
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i think at least a month
04:10
the point is give time for governance to determine one final last step
04:11
In reply to this message
i think it should stay 1 week
04:11
community needs time to deliberate
KT
04:12
Kai Tiurin
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Anyway, we should provide the communication that will force users to move their assets ASAP
Z
04:12
Zon
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And let external assets leave the chain, bETH, avax, atom, USDC etc
KT
04:13
Kai Tiurin
There should be no feeling like "ok funds are safu for a month at least"
V
04:13
Vasiliy
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as fart as I understand:
- if we don't remove the market module, the luna supply will hit the maximum amount and chain will halt and won't come back without hard fork
- chain has better work to a) let people withdraw external assets if they so wish b) exercise what's left of governance
04:13
right?
KT
04:13
Kai Tiurin
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(not sure that such a feeling could appear lol but still)
S?
04:13
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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04:13
Jared | TFL
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there were. Right before we blocked staking went from 285m to over 500m
IP
04:14
Isidoros Passadis
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TFL confirmed this was them
DK
04:14
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
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confirmed
KT
04:15
Kai Tiurin
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Yes, we were focused on preventing an attack those times
04:15
So we alerted to TFL when it happened lol
04:16
In reply to this message
Yes
j|
04:16
jiyun | DSRV
Hey guys. I’m very confused. So now TFL want re-run with v0.5.20 right?
KT
04:16
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
Yes. We're waiting for Wormhole guardians to come to consensus that they will run the bridge
j|
04:16
jiyun | DSRV
in hours ago many validators waiting confirm
V
04:17
Vasiliy
Okay, I agree the current course of actions is a good option. Letting the chain halt and then rescue would probably be cleaner legally, but way harder to execute
j|
04:18
jiyun | DSRV
If TFL do confirm, announce first. and go.
KT
04:19
Kai Tiurin
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That's the plan
04:19
In reply to this message
TFL confirmed the plan but while we have no confirmation from wormhole we make no public communications
04:20
If something will go wrong after we will make an announcement it will be kinda bad
04:20
So we want to be sure
04:21
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(I wanted to write "it will be a mess" but it's already a total mess haha)
S?
04:23
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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04:23
Shit, wrong gif
DK
04:23
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
@yun_yeo
04:23
can you confirm that the network is good to launch?
04:23
can someone summarize the issue?
04:23
im pretty confused
KT
04:23
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
We gathered the info for all the validators
e
04:23
etienne | Setten
@dokwon once restarted, can tfl undelegate the emergency delegation done before halt?
DK
04:24
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
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ok sure
04:24
why though? we wont receive quorum?
S?
04:24
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
There are two main goals to the restart:
1) foreign asset recovery
2) governance.

To achieve the first one, we need to sync with wormhole. We're waiting for them to confirm they're ready.
e
04:24
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
I think we're all good, just waiting on IBC thingy
D
04:24
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
did you guys stop again?
PC
04:24
Peter Chainlayer
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Staking is disabled still right?
e
04:24
etienne | Setten
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ah yeah there's quorum too hmm
S?
04:24
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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Yes
B-
04:24
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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undelegate/redelgate is allowed
KT
04:24
Kai Tiurin
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So if .20 works we are ready
PC
04:24
Peter Chainlayer
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πŸ‘
B-
04:25
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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if tfl doesnt want to weigh in with their vote, best to remove the disproportionate voting power for a more representative voting.
P
04:25
PFC
So start 20??
DK
04:26
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
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ok will do
PC
04:26
Peter Chainlayer
We got enough wormhole ppl confirming? Only see 4 in the wormhole ready sheet
S?
04:26
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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No, he meant quorum threshold I think
PC
04:26
Peter Chainlayer
Thats all we’re waiting for now right?
e
04:26
etienne | Setten
In reply to this message
yeah that's what I meant
S?
04:26
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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Correct
j|
04:26
jiyun | DSRV
Anyway the final button to run 20 is upto TFL or @dokwon
David Koh invited Guy Zyskind | SCRT Labs
j|
04:28
jiyun | DSRV
DSRV ready to run. so wait cofirmation.
DK
04:28
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
ah actually
04:28
lets wait a bit longer for wormhole
E
04:29
Evgeniy
what about different end blocks? Is it a problem?
PC
04:29
Peter Chainlayer
5/13 guardians confirmed if any WH guardians here have not please confirm
YY
04:29
Yun Yeo
yes need more guardiancs
KT
04:29
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
9 actually confirmed
04:29
They just haven't filled the list
PC
04:29
Peter Chainlayer
Then they havent confirmed wormhole imho
P
04:29
PFC
How many do we need ?
YY
04:29
Yun Yeo
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how many do we need? 13??
j|
04:29
jiyun | DSRV
Hey TFL, You can confirm now, because we validators all know what we do now. wating guardinace.
PC
04:30
Peter Chainlayer
That requires rpc nodes to be ready not validators
DK
04:30
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
ok
04:30
pls do
KT
04:30
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
13 minimum, 14 is better
GB
04:30
George Bunea | Syncnode
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yes, min 13
D
04:30
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
ChainofSecrets reaedy - awaiting confirmation
KT
04:30
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
TFL confirmed the plan several times already
j|
04:31
jiyun | DSRV
Yeah, @yun_yeo announced in discord.
KT
04:31
Kai Tiurin
But launching the network without being sure about wormhole is totally wrong
04:31
So we're waiting
j|
04:33
jiyun | DSRV
So every valdiator here knows that, TFL & Do officially confirmed run v0.5.20 and we waiting only wormhole gaurdians right?
S?
04:33
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Correct
Y
04:33
Yeon
ok
j|
04:33
jiyun | DSRV
Let’s sync everbody!
S?
04:33
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Depends what you mean by "officially"
j|
04:33
jiyun | DSRV
Wanna change blessed from DO?
D
04:34
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
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Ok
S?
04:34
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Yes, that it has been
KT
04:34
Kai Tiurin
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Multiple times actually
j|
04:34
jiyun | DSRV
I just want apart you validator guys carefully from any other issue include legal @kayvflu
Stas invited Максим
j|
04:35
jiyun | DSRV
plz understand If i bother you.
S?
04:35
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Ok folks, this could take some time. How about we meet again in either 30m or 1hr? Opinions?
l
04:36
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
1h? this time?
KT
04:36
Kai Tiurin
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No worries, sorry if I seem too harsh. Appreciate your efforts to avoid legal issues
S?
04:37
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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Let's discuss quickly. @kayvflu do you have an opinion?
P
04:38
PFC
I'll be offline for a few hours..
I'm not a major percentage so you'll be ok without me.
Or I can start now
KT
04:38
Kai Tiurin
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Makes sense. 1h doesn't matter right now and Wormhole is still nor ready
04:39
In reply to this message
Hey, take some rest. I believe we will be able to run without you anyway
P
04:40
PFC
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Thx.. cu in a few
S?
04:40
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Everyone, 1hr break. Please check back at 10:40 UTC. Please whitelist this chat for calls at Settings -> privacy and security -> calls -> exceptions -> always allow -> add this TG group
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§ pinned this message
B-
04:41
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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i will be offline as well. i think you should ask every validator to whitelist this group for telegram calls so that they can be reached out when needed (i have done that). Settings -> privacy and security -> calls -> exceptions -> always allow -> add this TG group
Y
04:41
Yeon
See you 1 hour after !
GB
04:42
George Bunea | Syncnode
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pinned messages work as alerts, I guess
S?
04:42
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
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Please whitelist this group before you go off. Great idea
B-
04:42
BigB - Smart Stake Validator - Dont Trust DMs
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call calls non-stop
J
04:43
Jared | TFL
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done.
GB
04:44
George Bunea | Syncnode
whitelisted for calls
P
04:44
PFC
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Same
HE
04:44
Helen | Everstake
done
Ankit invited Michael
A
04:48
Aries @SynergyNodes
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Where to do this?
J
04:49
Jared | TFL
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Settings -> privacy and security -> calls -> exceptions -> always allow -> add this TG group
A
04:49
Aries @SynergyNodes
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Thank you.
j|
04:51
jiyun | DSRV
done.
A
04:54
Aries @SynergyNodes
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Done
MA
04:55
Marius Abalaru
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Done here also. Call any time
SB invited Ian
James Parillo invited Ε½ygis @ figment.io
Paul Kim converted this group to a supergroup
Terra Rebirth League (TRL) converted a basic group to this supergroup «Terra Rebirth League (TRL)»
D
05:26
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
Done
J
05:32
James Parillo
Done
J
05:32
James Parillo
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J | TFL 13.05.2022 04:49:36
Settings -> privacy and security -> calls -> exceptions -> always allow -> add this TG group
S?
05:35
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Okay, welcome back everybody.
10 out of a minimum of 13 Guardians have filled the form so far, so we are getting closer but not ready yet.
05:35
I understand that going back and forth like this is far from ideal so we have a proposition to make, but I think @kayvflu has a technical question first
D
05:36
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
In reply to this message
Which form?
GB
05:38
George Bunea | Syncnode
I am DM-ing the ones that I personally know
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05:38
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Thank you George!
Okay, so here's the question: what would be the potential negative consequences if we were to launch asynchronously?
E.g. a message is posted here once we're ready asking everyone to go live asap?
D
05:39
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
In reply to this message
I filled out a different one
YY
05:39
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
Good to launch asynchronously, but have to shutdown your node to avoid app hash diff crash.
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05:40
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
This one is for wormhole guardians, the other is for Terra validators so you filled the right one :)
D
05:41
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
Ok cool thanks
GB
05:41
George Bunea | Syncnode
In reply to this message
are you a wormhooe guardian? If not then you should not complete that form
05:41
ah, sorry, already answered πŸ˜„
D
05:42
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
In reply to this message
No I’m not completing it haha
GB
05:42
George Bunea | Syncnode
we have 11/13
05:42
better to have 14
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05:43
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
So nodes should be online until we reach 2/3 online with patch right?
05:44
Can that impair our ability to achieve the successful retrieval of cross chain assets in the short term?
YY
05:45
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
Validators maybe keep node operation at least a month to give time for user to withdraw cross chain assets.
05:46
In reply to this message
Need 2/3+ voting power for this
GB
05:47
George Bunea | Syncnode
maybe redelgating some of the stake to gaurdians would be a solution
05:47
in case others don't want to keep their validators up
KT
05:48
Kai Tiurin
The main question is:
Do we need to run all-at-once or could we just say "run your node as soon as you'll be able to" and wait till network starts to run while validators turn their nodes on?
05:48
Like, we don't care about slashing atm
05:48
And even if we care it will happen in ~18 hours from the network start
YY
05:49
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
When wormhole gurdiances are ready we can say β€œrun your node ASAP”.
KT
05:50
Kai Tiurin
We can say but we can't expect all the validators to be ready
05:50
This ASAP will be hour or so
05:50
(hour at minimal to achieve the 2/3 I think)
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05:51
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Is that acceptable?
GB
05:51
George Bunea | Syncnode
In reply to this message
what else can be done?
05:51
that's what we have
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05:51
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
otherwise we can be more careful about launching synchronously
GB
05:51
George Bunea | Syncnode
12 guardians are ready
S?
05:52
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
This is a question of quality of life right now
MA
05:52
Marius Abalaru
waiting for OK
YY
05:52
Yun Yeo
Please one more
William Chen | TERRAN.ONE invited Jeff
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05:52
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
If an asynchronous launch is not possible, we just have to wait on alert
KT
05:52
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
I believe it is, I think we just have some kind of misunderstanding haha
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05:53
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
I think it is too
05:53
I'm just try to present the alternatives we have :)
GB
05:53
George Bunea | Syncnode
it is, yes, but if we don't have consensus on wormhole guardians the crosschain txs will not be validated
J
05:53
JustMe
Can someone summarize what are the next steps?
YY
05:54
Yun Yeo
Btw certusone is not guardian?
GB
05:54
George Bunea | Syncnode
In reply to this message
pretty much waiting for OK to start the nodes
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05:54
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Next steps recap:
1) Wait for 13 guardian confirmation minimum (14 is better)
2) Ask Do for greenlight + official announcement
3) Restart the network
GB
05:54
George Bunea | Syncnode
In reply to this message
he is
KT
05:54
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
This
A
05:54
Aries @SynergyNodes
In reply to this message
Ok.
j|
05:54
jiyun | DSRV
In reply to this message
2 + announce official twt
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§ pinned this message
GB
05:54
George Bunea | Syncnode
OK, with certus we have 13
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05:54
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Good idea
GB
05:54
George Bunea | Syncnode
@leo_zl ?
J
05:55
JoseCT | Stakely.io
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FYI, this is the current state of the network:
MK
05:55
Mateusz Kaczanowski
In reply to this message
where is this coming from :) ? nice output
j|
05:55
jiyun | DSRV
we are not online.
YY
05:56
Yun Yeo
yes with certus we have 13
A
05:56
Aries @SynergyNodes
In reply to this message
ya, I think we are NOT suppose to be online. right?
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05:56
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Ok, let's get one more if possible
05:56
To get some wriggle room
KT
05:56
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
I think @dsrvlabs_jiyunkim talks about DSRV in the table above
YY
05:57
Yun Yeo
@hendrik ?
j|
05:57
jiyun | DSRV
In reply to this message
yes. i mean.
J
05:58
JoseCT | Stakely.io
In reply to this message
That's the output of one of our RPC that's is currently upgraded and running, I don't know
05:58
In reply to this message
Merrits to https://github.com/Northa/consensus
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05:59
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Can that be used on other networks?
Ankit invited V
J
06:00
JoseCT | Stakely.io
In reply to this message
Yeah, it's been used for some upgrades in Evmos and Juno
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06:01
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Sick
06:01
Is anyone in contact with Certus?
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06:02
Claudiu Nae | 01node.com
@leo_zl and @hendrik are both here
KT
06:02
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
@leo_zl @hendrik are
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06:03
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Could you try to get them onboard one more time? Please ask the to fill this if they can be reached and are willing https://silk-bird-b29.notion.site/afb3514134ad4488ac2da61df22613fa?v=8d3106dc5c974aadb213388144f9129c
D
06:04
Dan - ChainofSecrets.org
In reply to this message
We are not online
YY
06:04
Yun Yeo
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06:05
he is the one we need? he said not validator but guardian
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06:05
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
We got this one already
YY
06:05
Yun Yeo
ah..
S?
06:05
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
We have:

syncnode
ChainLayer
Staking Fund
Chainode Tech
Triton One
Everstake
Staked
ChorusOne
MoonletWallet
Forbole
01node
Inotel
06:05
We need one more at least
A
06:06
Aries @SynergyNodes
In reply to this message
one more to start the node? I am here.
KT
06:06
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
Damn why we don't have p2p there
06:06
I'll ping them
Ankit invited Luis Laimer
06:09
13 done!
06:09
now good to go right?
06:09
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06:10
James Parillo
Hey just want to make sure I understand what we need to do to put our name down:
KT
06:10
Kai Tiurin
In reply to this message
We need @dokwon greenlight
HE
06:10
Helen | Everstake
In reply to this message
and we have to wait till official announcement will be done, right?
YY
06:11
Yun Yeo
on discord?
j|
06:11
jiyun | DSRV
twt.
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06:11
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
On terra_money too
S
06:12
Su
Staker Space is also ready to run
J
06:12
Jared | TFL
In reply to this message
I will ask us to tweet after chain restarts.
S
06:12
Su
#14
YY
06:12
Yun Yeo
@dokwon was already confirmed to go when guardians are ready. @terran_2 I think good to make discord announcement
l
06:12
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
In reply to this message
It’s better
GB
06:12
George Bunea | Syncnode
yes, let's make the announcement
06:12
on discord
J
06:12
Jared | TFL
In reply to this message
understood
GB
06:12
George Bunea | Syncnode
and start
j|
06:13
jiyun | DSRV
why after?
06:13
worrying about chain runnig failed?
J
06:13
James Parillo
Wormhole:
Name
Make sure version is updated
Confirm ready

Terra Validator:
Validator name
Current block
Consensus status
Current version
Ready?
Percentage of stake

Once this is InSync with everyone else we enter our info?
DK
06:14
Do Kwon πŸŒ–
In reply to this message
Ok
YY
06:14
Yun Yeo
gogo
Y
06:15
Yeon
now?
F
06:15
Fabian | blockscape
Start daemons?
YY
06:15
Yun Yeo
jared is writing anncounement now in software-update channel.
HE
06:15
Helen | Everstake
so announcement in twt will be after?
should we start now?
06:15
In reply to this message
ok
J
06:15
Jared | TFL
In reply to this message
done
S?
06:16
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Ok, before we turn on the nodes, let's confirm who's present. Please write "ready" here, i'll keep a tally
A
06:16
Aries @SynergyNodes
ready
S
06:16
Su
ready
F
06:16
Fabian | blockscape
ready
SR
06:16
Seth Riney
ready
R
06:16
Roman
+
YY
06:16
Yun Yeo
ready
E
06:16
Evgeniy
ready
c
06:16
curlycrypto | StakeWith.Us
ready
S?
06:16
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Please add you validator name too
06:16
Ahahah
C
06:16
Charles | Forbole
ready - forbole
BA
06:16
Bogdan A.
Kytzu ready
Y
06:16
Yeon
ready
A
06:16
Aries @SynergyNodes
ready - Synergy Nodes
Y
06:16
Yeon
delight
c
06:16
curlycrypto | StakeWith.Us
ready-StakeWithUs
A
06:16
Ankit
ready - Chorus One
R
06:16
Roman
Luna Station 88 ready
K
06:16
KRB
ready
A
06:16
Ankit
ready - Marte Cloud
l
06:16
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
B-Harvest is ready
A
06:16
Ankit
ready - Luna Maximalists
c
06:16
chanwoo
ready - Staking Fund
J
06:16
JoseCT | Stakely.io
ready - Stakely
C
06:16
Claimens πŸŒ– CryptoCrew Validators
ready - CryptoCrew
E
06:16
Evgeniy
ready - Autism Staking
AK
06:16
Alexander Kondakov
ready - P2P Validator
K
06:17
Konstantin | BTC.Secure
ready - BTC.Secure
GB
06:17
George Bunea | Syncnode
ready - syncnode
MA
06:17
Marius Abalaru
ready Dokia + Inotel
M
06:17
Mihai
ready - stake.systems
DK
06:17
David Koh
ready
l
06:17
larry_0x
ready
i
06:17
ivy | RockX
ready - RockX
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06:18
Claudiu Nae | 01node.com
ready
S?
06:18
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
I've cleared the "ready" tab of this form: https://silk-bird-b29.notion.site/6c7686262d414a2990c53fb54e71667f?v=a113460ab4aa45fc9d16faf45f2bde2a
I'll keep the tally there
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06:19
Tiago | Stakin
ready
A
06:19
Alexey
ready - p2p.org
J
06:19
JoseCT | Stakely.io
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A
06:19
Aries @SynergyNodes
Wait, is current block in notion site "7607790" correct?
06:20
some have "7607789"
MA
06:20
Marius Abalaru
In reply to this message
I am on 89 ...
C|
06:20
Claudiu Nae | 01node.com
In reply to this message
this looks nice
S?
06:20
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Dokia and inotel can you add yourselves to the form please?
YY
06:20
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
they wrote consensus height
R
06:20
Roman
7607789 finalized block, 7607790 not finalized
S?
06:20
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Larry too please
MA
06:20
Marius Abalaru
In reply to this message
I think I missed it, let me see where it is
A
06:21
Aries @SynergyNodes
In reply to this message
Got it.
A
06:21
Alex | Easy2Stake
So we start now ? already started ?
S?
06:21
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
This one
06:21
In reply to this message
Stand by
06:21
Final tally
A
06:21
Alex | Easy2Stake
ack
J
06:21
James Parillo
Figment is working on Terra side rn
C
06:22
Charles | Forbole
Can we confirm who will be giving the final go ahead to avoid confusion
S?
06:22
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Last tally before we start. Please make sure you have filled this form: https://silk-bird-b29.notion.site/6c7686262d414a2990c53fb54e71667f?v=a113460ab4aa45fc9d16faf45f2bde2a
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06:22
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
In reply to this message
@kayvflu Do you want to do the honors? If that's okay with everyone
C
06:22
Charles | Forbole
and maybe we can get a post in the discord announcement channel at the same time as this is an entirely new chat channel
Y
06:22
Yeon
@dsrvlabs_jiyunkim fill the form plz
J
06:23
JoseCT | Stakely.io
The announcement is sent in Discord. We can start the nodes as far as I know
YY
06:23
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
we made announcement
R
06:23
Roman
Discord announcement said start node
YY
06:23
Yun Yeo
in software-update channel
R
06:23
Roman
I started already
KT
06:23
Kai Tiurin
Do said let's go? So let's go!
C
06:23
Charles | Forbole
so start now ?>
KT
06:23
Kai Tiurin
Yes
A
06:23
Aries @SynergyNodes
Ok. Lets start
YY
06:23
Yun Yeo
yes
Y
06:23
Yeon
ok gogo
l
06:23
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
invite the discord channel plz
06:23
Lucas | Crescent&B-Harvest#3879
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06:24
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Okay, let's get this thing rolling. Please turn on your nodes.
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§ pinned this message
YY
06:24
Yun Yeo
In reply to this message
https://discord.gg/HsK8ERyW
J
06:24
JoseCT | Stakely.io
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MA
06:24
Marius Abalaru
I am trying to add me to the list and I’m getting removed by others
06:24
Dokia + Inotel are up
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06:24
Spaydh πŸŒ˜πŸ’§
Roughly 40% of the voting power has confirmed their presence right now
06:24
According to the form
T|
06:24
Tiago | Stakin
started
J
06:25
JoseCT | Stakely.io
55%
GB
06:25
George Bunea | Syncnode
we need the top 3
06:25
and we're good
06:25
πŸ˜„
Y
06:25
Yeon
started
BA
06:25
Bogdan A.
kytzu started
J
06:25
JoseCT | Stakely.io
@JustMeOnline could you start Orion validator?
l
06:25
lucas@crescent | B-harvest
started
A
06:25
Aries @SynergyNodes
started
A
06:25
Alex | Easy2Stake
started
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06:25
jiyun | DSRV
started.